Transcribed and edited by Jaya Kannan, KK Davey and Jayshree Ramakrishnan.

Question  :
What does śabda pramanam mean? Why is the teacher so important  in this?  

Answer  :
A pramanam is a means of knowledge. Sabda pramanam means that  the words of the scriptures are a means of knowledge. A śabda becomes a  pramāõam if it comes to me through the teacher. Words are usually  understood in our own personal context, and therefore, not just any words,  but the scriptural words unfolded by the teacher are the pramāõam. That is  the reason why we don’t approach the scriptures directly. We approach them through the teacher who unfolds the words for us in an appropriate way. It is  a one-to-one communication.  

In the beginning, there appears to be a lot of subjectivity in these  words. Go along with it, and it becomes clearer and clearer to you. Also,  cooperate with the teacher and the teaching. When I discover that a certain  conclusion that I was entertaining is contradicted by the teaching, then I  should let it go. My conclusions were perhaps without a basis or based on  wrong reasons. Learning is a process of letting go of the false conclusions  or false notions, and gaining new insights. So, as I let go of these false  conclusions, the subjectivity is also let go. In due course, the words become  more and more effective, as my mind is more and more open. In the  beginning, it is subjective because there is something I still want to hold on  to. Certain conclusions are very important to me. Certain beliefs are very important to me. I am seeking security from my own belief systems. To the  extent that I let go of my conclusions and beliefs, to that extent my mind  becomes more available to understand the teaching in its true sense.  

The Upanishad is a means of knowledge not so much in defining the  Self, as in removing our false notions about the Self. They remove my  ignorance, if I am open to it and willing to create a space or distance with  my own conclusions. When I see my own self from the point of view of the  Upanishad, then I can see the fallacy of my assumptions. Therefore,  identification with the teacher becomes important. I will identify with the  teacher provided I trust that the teacher does not have an agenda of his own  and my well-being is his only agenda. If the trust is there, then there won’t  be any emotional problems. Then I look at my own self from the standpoint  of the Upanishad, apart from myself. The Self is nothing but a bunch of  conclusions. What we call ego is a whole bunch of different conclusions. It  is difficult for me to look at my complexes by myself. Therefore, I must  examine myself from a perspective that is free from these complexes, and  for that, we need to identify with the teacher. This identification with the  teacher comes from having śraddhā and bhakti. The devotion and reverence  for the teacher enable me to identify with the teacher gladly. Otherwise,  nobody can de-identify with the ego. You are always going to hold on to the  ego. We judge everything based on that. Here, the process is reversed; I am  willing to judge my own ego because somebody is more valuable to me than  my ego. If my trust and devotion is such that the teacher becomes more  important to me in my life, then, by identifying with the teacher, I will be  able to examine my ego. If it doesn’t happen, you have to wait until that  happens. 

Sometimes the identification with the teacher is an instant process;  devotion and reverence happens at first sight. Some people take more time.  Sometimes it does not happen even after a very long time. It is a matter  our prārabda. When someone else is more important than me, it is a great  fortune, a great blessing. All that blessing is God’s grace. You cannot have satsang without God’s kripā. We can always pray to the Lord for śraddhā.  Śraddhā and bhakti can be acquired by the grace of the Lord.